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Dr Cheryl Martin
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  • A Prescription for Caring Leadership in Healthcare with Joshua D Hartzell MD
    In S6 E2 I am delighted to welcome Dr Joshua D Hartzell MD MS-HPEd FACP FIDSA to the podcast. Dr Hartzell is an Infectious Diseases and Internal Medicine Physician and a retired Army Colonel who has spent 25 years in military medicine. He is also the author of a fantastic new book : A Prescription for Caring in Healthcare Leadership: Building a Culture of Compassion and Excellence.                  Throughout his career Dr Hartzell has held numerous leadership positions including being Program Director for the Internal Medicine Residency and Assistant Chief of Graduate Medical Education at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center and Assistant Dean for Faculty Development at the Uniformed Services University. He deployed as a Battalion Surgeon with the 82 nd  Airborne Division to Afghanistan. He is also faculty at the MGH Institute of Health Professions where he teaches leadership development. As a practising clinician he has devoted the last decade to developing leaders training and teaching thousands of students, residents, and faculty within healthcare. Josh hashas delivered over 100 talks on leadership development and has writtennumerous papers on the topic. He combines his years of boots on the ground leading in medicine with his research to teach other leaders practical strategies about how to sharpen their leadership skills in his book.        In this conversation I have the joy of exploring Josh's own story of self and motivation to write this book. He discusses the practicalities and process of writing and publishing in addition to his personal and professional purpose in sharing the strategy, art and practical application of leadership in healthcare.  In this book he weaves science and story together in a very accessible format making this book both an enjoyable read but an enduring manual to re-visit again and again. We discuss feedback, sponsorship, organisational communication and "aggressive listening" as a leader in addition to leading and caring for self and others. There are many, many leadership books in the world but Josh provides a unique lens and needed prescription for healthcare today and going forward.Links/References/Further Reading:Dr Joshua Hartzell https://joshuahartzellmd.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshhartzellmd/Josh's reading recommendationshttps://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0BNKXF3VQ?ref_=mr_direct_us_au_au&showmrihttps://danielcoyle.com/the-culture-code/https://www.hayhouse.com.au/lead-from-the-heart-ebook The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.
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  • Leading with Courage and Kindness in Healthcare with Dr Don Berwick and Professor Catherine Crock.
    Welcome to Season 6 Episode 1 of the podcast. This season we will explore the overarching theme of hope as something we intentionally co-create through great strategy and action. I am incredibly honoured to be joined but not one but two "giants" in healthcare clinical leadership, Dr Don Berwick President Emeritus and Senior Fellow at at the Institute for Health Improvement and also special guest co-host Professor Catherine Crock Chair and Founder of the Hush Foundation. ( More complete bios in episode)       In this powerful conversation we again use Marshall Ganz's perfect story arc of self, us and now to explore Dr Berwick's own story and journey of healthcare improvement, we discuss how important it is not do this work alone and organise and bring others will us. We learn that there is method in mobilisation as beautifully demonstrated by the success of the 100, 000 lives campaign. Leadership remains the pervasive theme throughout and the call to action extends to all of us in healthcare but particularly to the highest levels of leadership to courage and kindness, to dare greatly, get rid of stupid stuff, deeply listen and engage clinicians and patients and be prepared to change mind and direction with new and involving information. Whilst a short podcast conversation cannot do full justice to the wealth of combined knowledge and wisdom of these two senior clinical leaders, I know you, like I, will gain so much from this one and I encourage you to explore more of the resources we discuss linked below. "If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulder of giants"Sir Isaac Newton Links, References and Recommended Reads :https://www.ihi.orghttps://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/ihiturnonthelightsLink to IHI Dr Don Berwick and Dr Jessica Berwick ]https://youtu.be/kxZl8Kc0-S0?si=iWOdRAmt_rFuCGWN The Moral determinants of health Berwick DM. The Moral Determinants of Health. JAMA. 2020;324(3):225–226. doi:10.1001/jama.2020.11129 Dr Don Berwick and Prof Amy Edmondson IHI Patient Safety Conference 2024https://youtu.be/akLEl9XOA28?si=kMYRwtFo77B7HkU0The Hush Foundation https://www.hush.org.au People, Power Change Marshall Ganz https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/people-power-change-organizing-democratic-renewal Sir Michael Marmot The Health Gap https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/health-gap-9781408857977/ The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.
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  • Truly Human Leadership with Mr Bob Chapman
        In S5 E 16 I am delighted to welcome Mr Bob Chapman to the podcast. Mr Chapman "The People's CEO" is Chairman and CEO  of St. Louis, MO-based Barry-Wehmiller, a $3.6B global capital equipment and engineering solutions company with more than 12,000 team members. Mr Chapman became the senior executive of Barry- Wehmiller in 1975 at age 30 when the 90-year-old business had $20 million in revenue, outdated technology and a very weak financial position. As you will hear in this conversation despite the obstacles, Chapman applied a unique blend of strategy and culture over the next 45+ years in leading Barry-Wehmiller through more than 130 successful acquisitions.  Over the past two decades, a series of realizations led him away from traditional management practices to Truly Human Leadership--a people-centric approach where his team members feel valued, cared for and integral to the company’s purpose. At Barry-Wehmiller, they have a unique measure of success: by the way they touch the lives of people.       Chapman’s experiences and the transformation he championed were the inspiration behind his 2015 WSJ bestseller Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family. The book is co- authored by Raj Sisodia, founder and co-author of Conscious Capitalism. . In 2016, Harvard Business School released a case study featuring Barry-Wehmiller’s unique approach to business, which is now taught at 70+ business schools around the world.      In 2013, Bob and his wife Cynthia launched a nonprofit, Chapman Foundation for Caring Communities, to bring the company’s groundbreaking Listen Like a Leader training to communities. And, in 2015, the Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute was founded to bring Barry-Wehmiller’s trademark culture transformation and leadership training to for-profit organizations.      I am joined here by special guest co-host Dr Chris Edmond ( S 5 E7) and together we have the opportunity to explore the leadership, strategy and culture which define the Chapman and Barry-Wehmiller organisational approach today. Mr Chapman himself credits his success in the face of adversity over the years to the combination of the core tenets of common sense, creativity and a positive attitude.  His story, journey and work are testament to what is possible at the intersection of great business strategy and profound care for people.  He wants everyone to see that caring for people and giving them meaning, purpose and fulfilment through their work is not in disharmony with creating value.  If the key mission and work of this podcast is to mine for the pockets of excellent leadership and practice so that we can all learn and evolve, then we have certainly struck gold again here. Thank you Mr Bob Chapman for generously sharing your time, expertise and wisdom . Links/ References:To Read https://www.barrywehmiller.com/outreach/bookTo Listen https://www.barrywehmiller.com/blogTo Learn and Support https://www.chapmancommunities.org/our-story/https://www.ccoleadership.com The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.
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  • A Primary Prevention approach to Occupational Health and Psychosocial Safety with Fiona McCarthy
        In S 5 E 15 I am delighted to welcome Fiona McCarthy to the podcast. Fiona is an occupational therapist by background specialising in workplace injury management and return to work. After her career in Occupational Therapy, Fiona became interested in primary prevention of workplace injury. She pursued post-graduate studies in Ergonomics , Safety and Health and Latrobe University. Since then, Fiona has worked in Safety and Wellbeing roles in Government, Higher Education and Health and Aged Care. she hold accreditation as a certified OHS professional and is a full member of the Human Factors Society of Australia.        In this conversation Fiona tells me more about her career trajectory leading to the work she does now consulting in job design, workflow and assisting workplaces with a proactive and primary prevention based approach to psychosocial safety. The core part of this episode focusses on psychosocial hazards and risk, what we mean by these terms and why this matters. Fiona breaks down her approach with some real world examples and very practical pearls. In particular she shares an example of excellent proactive practice in Tasmanian Bakeries, which was a finalist in this year's AIHS awards for best WHS Health and Wellbeing Program. In the final part of the conversation we discuss emerging research on the role of routine work stress as a contributor to psychosocial risk and the relevance of this to frontline responder roles in health and emergency services. Throughout this episode Fiona shares some excellent resources, linked below. Thank you Fiona for your optimistic, evidence and action-driven approach to occupational health, safety and wellbeing. Links / References/ Resources:https://www.linkedin.com/in/fiona-mccarthy-75387abb/https://www.workps.auhttps://data.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2024-02/Psychological-health-in-the-workplace_Snapshot_February2024.pdf https://www.aphirm.org.au https://learn.fwc.gov.au/local/catalogue_search/module_overview.php?id=13 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3974929/ https://wellbeing.hmc.ox.ac.uk/publications/employee-well-being-outcomes-from-individual-level-mental-health-interventions-cross-sectional-evidence-from-the-united-kingdom/ https://www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/BDI20_Workplace_Mental-Health_Toolkit.pdf?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Mental%20Health%20Toolkit%20Download&utm_content=Mental%20Health%20Toolkit%20Download+&utm_so The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.
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  • A call to Advocacy and Action for Courageous Clinicians with Pedja Stojicic MD MPH.
         In S5 E14 I am delighted to welcome Pedja Stojicic, MD, MPH to the podcast. Dr  Stojicic is an instructor for the DrPH Program at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health teaching two courses - Enabling Teams and Enabling Large System Change. Pedja is passionate about enabling health leaders to use community organizing practices to advocate for equitable health and well-being. He currently serves as an executive lead for People, Power, Health https://www.peoplepowerhealth.org/ .        In the past, he has worked with the CMS, Center for Public Health Leadership, Primary Care Progress, Way to Wellville, Healthcare Anchor Network, Center for Health Progress, and many others. Previously, Dr. Stojicic has served as president and executive director of Youth of JAZAS, a Serbian NGO fighting HIV/AIDS, and as a consultant for the Ministry of Health of the Republic of Serbia implementing health care financing reform. Dr. Stojicic completed a fellowship at the Harvard Kennedy School studying Leadership and Organizing with Prof. Marshall Ganz and later worked as a member of Ganz’s HKS Teaching Team. As a life-long activist, he currently serves on the advisory board of Leading Change Network, one of the largest global networks of social movement leaders.     In this incredible conversation Pedja tells us his own story of self before elaborating on the concept of narrative leadership and the practice and pedagogy  of community organising to enable positive social, environmental and political change. We discuss the story arc of Self, Us and Now ( articulated by Professor Marshall Ganz in his book People. Power, Change)  and why finding voice as clinicians and articulating our own story is a key first step to bringing others with us, building collective agency and taking action.      I learn more about work at People, Power, Health and HEART, an advocacy training program for courageous clinicians.      In challenging and uncertain times it is hard not to be inspired and energised by Dr Stojicic who aptly describes himself as  intellectual pessimist but action optimist. This conversation is an empowering call to individual and collective action. "Empowerment of individuals and communities is absolutely central. Getting the community involved in organising their own destiny has to be a key part of it" Professor Sir Michael MarmotLinks / References / Further Reading:Dr Pedja Stojicichttps://www.linkedin.com/in/pedjastojicic/People, Power, Health https://www.peoplepowerhealth.org/HEART program - advocacy training for courageous clinicianshttps://www.peoplepowerhealth.org/heartPeople, Power, Change Professor Marshall Ganz https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/people-power-change-organizing-democratic-renewal  The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.
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