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Dr Andrea Wallace: All about EMDR
24/05/2026 | 45 mins.
Alison steps in for Angie today and joins Penny in welcoming back Dr Andrea Wallace to discuss EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitisation and Reprocessing).
EMDR is an evidence-backed therapy that uses bilateral stimulation (for example side to side eye movements) alongside the recollection of memories to help the brain reprocess memories of events or feelings.

Penny and Alison discuss:

How the body/mind is wired to heal itself

What EMDR is and how it started

How and why it can be useful to help treat people with OCD

What EMDR sessions might look like

How it’s been helpful for Penny

How it can help people who might be resistant to trying ERP
Chris Walker: When childhood trauma meets OCD
17/05/2026 | 46 mins.
Leading Australian TV producer, Chris Walker talks to Penny and Angie about the devastating intersection of OCD and childhood trauma.
When Chris was a young kid he witnessed a devastating event which left him and his family reeling. A few years later, Chris experienced OCD symptoms which started to take over his life.

In this very raw and honest episode, Chris talks so generously about:

The role religion and moral scrupulosity played in his OCD

The exhaustion of dealing with OCD at school when it’s so often invisible/hidden

The continuing misunderstanding around OCD and mental illness in general

Getting treatment for PTSD and ocd and how ERP therapy helped his compulsions

Seeing OCD symptoms in one of his children and his optimism for early intervention.
Adelaide Miller: Solving the jigsaw of multiple diagnoses
10/05/2026 | 1h 5 mins.
Award-winning ABC journalist and independent filmmaker, Adelaide Miller has a lot going on. Over the last five years she's been diagnosed with OCD, an eating disorder, mild tourettes and ADHD.

Adelaide talks to Penny and Alison about the symptoms she experienced as a child, the painful and awkward lengths she would go to, to make others feel happy and loved and how she's worked to unpack the different components of her neurodivergence and mental health.

We discuss eating disorders in this episode, so if you need help please contact The Butterfly Foundation

Show notes:
The Man Who Couldn't Stop by David Adam
We're back..again! An ADHD diagnosis, an OCD slump and a big season ahead.
03/05/2026 | 22 mins.
Season 3 is here! We're kicking things off with a relaxed catch-up between the girls- chatting about Angie's recent ADHD diagnosis, Penny's honest account of an OCD relapse and Alison's mental gymnastics in the holidays. We also give you a little taste of the incredible guests we have lined up for the season ahead.
Group chat: How OCD affects friendships
23/11/2025 | 42 mins.
OCD can take so much from people, and a devastating effect of this illness is that it can complicate friendships. In this last episode of season 2, Alison Cosker joins Penny and Ange again to talk about how and why this is the case.

They touch on:

- How hard it can be to tell friends about an OCD diagnosis
- The strain a mental illness, with no end-date can put on friendships
- The boundaries that people with mental illness often have to put in place to look after themselves, and how this can be misconstrued
- How friends can get entangled in the reassurance web
- Trying to take the ego out of friendship where possible

They end by giving tips for trying to maintain precious friendships; from the point of views of the person with and without OCD

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About It’s Not What You Think

OCD, it’s really not what you think. This is a podcast about the horrors and hilarities of living with OCD, hosted by author and mental health advocate Penny Moodie and CEO of Stand Up Events, Angie Greene.Both Penny and Angie have lived with OCD for as long as they can remember and they have had enough of the misconceptions about OCD that can cause so much damage. They want to share what it’s really like to live with OCD so that other people feel more understood and less alone. Each week they will speak to an expert or someone with lived experience to delve into the raw and often confronting reality of living with this often debilitating illness. Penny and Angie are on a mission to shine a light on something that is so often shrouded in shame so that everyone can feel less alone. So if you have OCD, or you know someone who has OCD, take a listen!INSTAGRAM: instagram.com/itsnotwhatyouthink_pod

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